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Women in Business: StartupNation Radio feat. Jennifer Kluge and Jana Brownell

On today’s episode of StartupNation Radio, Jeff is joined by co-host Norm Pappas, president and CEO of Pappas Financial. Together, they interview two accomplished entrepreneurs: Jennifer Kluge and Jana Brownell.


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First up is Jennifer Kluge, president and CEO of the National Association for Business Resources (NABR) and president and CEO of MichBusiness, a community for Michigan business owners. Jennifer is also the CEO of Corp! Magazine.

Jennifer Kluge
(Jennifer Kluge)

During the interview, Jennifer discusses:

  • How her company, MichBusiness, helps small- and medium-sized businesses to grow and flourish
  • How Corp! Magazine has grown its presence in Michigan, while also expanding out of state
  • How her organizations are helping businesses to pivot during the pandemic (while also making pivots of their own)
  • What led her to join the business community
  • Her advice and life lessons for entrepreneurs
  • Her ongoing goal of helping young entrepreneurs succeed

“Success is a series of failures… there’s about 10 failed attempts before you get it right.”

– Jennifer Kluge

For more information on Jennifer and her organizations, visit The Best and Brightest. You can also click to learn more about MichBusiness and Corp! Magazine.



Next up, Jeff and Norm chat with Jana Brownell, president and CEO of the Kirlin Company, a 125 year old family business that is a leader in specification grade commercial and healthcare lighting, headquartered in Detroit.

Jana Brownell
(Jana Brownell)

During the interview, Brownell shares:

  • How she transitioned to working in her family business after working in the healthcare industry
  • Her appreciation of working in the family business with her father
  • How Kirlin has successfully differentiated itself from its competitors as an industry leader
  • Her leadership experience
  • Kirlin’s collaborative work environment, and how they’ve been able to maintain safe interactions during the pandemic

“The purpose of this business is to perpetuate quality lighting, to be an example of a very well-run business and ethical business.”

– Jana Brownell

To learn more about the Kirlin Company, visit the official website.

Tune in to the full interview with Jennifer Kluge and Jana Brownell below:


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